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Masturbation:Reply To Kali Zuban Article

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bigbro Group: Members  Joined: 23rd Jun, 2007  Topic: 9  Post: 29  Age:  31  
Posted on:9th Aug 2007, 9:31pm
 

Masturbation:Reply To Kali Zuban Article

Ap ne jo apne article main musht zani k barey main likha us se mutaliq yeh article paish karta hon.

 

Jo shakhs bura tareeq jari karey or loog us pr amal karien,to us pr us k jari karney ka bhee gunah hoga or un logon k amal ka bhee or amal karney walon k gunah main koi kami nahi hogi. (ibn-e-majh)

 

Yeh ahadis ap k leye and for everbody else who are in favour of mastubation, k leye lamha-e-fikarya hai.zara ghor se soocheye ga is barey main.ap ka article read kar k jis kisi ne bhee ap k article ko right samjh kr mushtzani kr li to us k gunnha bhee ap k sir aye ga.or yeh us ka waqt tak jari rahey ga jab tak koi na koi is ko read kr k amal karta rahey ga.it's a Gunah-e-jaria.

 

Quran kareem main ALLAH subhanwatala irshad farmata hai,

 

Surah alhadeed, para27, ayat 24.

Tarjuma:Or jo ap(khud) bukhul karein or aoron se bukhul ko kahien or jo mou phairey to bayshak ALLAH he bayniyaz hai sab khobiyon saraha.

 

Surah nisa , para 5,ayat 37

Tarjuma:Jo ap(khud) bukhul karein or auron se bukhul k leye kahien or ALLAH ne jo inhen apney fazal se jo dia hai usey chupaien or kafiron k leye humne zilat ka azab tayar kr rakha hai.

 

And regarding people who say that there is no proof of mushtzani un k leye irshad hai k Quran kareem main har masley ka jawab hai, srif us ko dhoondney or us ka sahi matlab samjhney ki dair hai.or waqai aqal walon k leye rehnumai hai, main ne aqal waley is leye kaha k jab ik ayat ap k samney ho phir bhee us pr amal na karein or bal k us ki mukhalfat karein waqai who loog bay aqal hongay.

surah nisa para5,ayat 82 Tarjuma:to kia ghor nahi kartey quran main",

nahal para14,ayat 89 Tarjuma:or hum ne tum pr quran utara k har cheez ka roshan bayan hai."

tirmizi main hai k Huzur salallaho ailhe wasalam ney paish aney waley fitnon ki khabar di,sahaba ne un se khallas ka tareeqa daryaft kia,farmaya kitab ALLAH tum se pheley waqiyat ki bhee khabar hai tum se bad k waqiyat ki bhee or tumharey mabain ka ilm bhee.

 

gharz yeh k yeh ik Jamey kitab hai. Srif ghor , tafakkur ,pharney,dhondney or samjhney ki dair hai.

Quran pak main ALLAH subhan watala irshad farmata hai,

Surah mo'menoon,para 18,ayat 5-7

Tarjuma:Or who jo apni sharamgahon ki hifazat kartey hain 5 magar apni bibiyon ya sharaiee bandiyon pr jo in k hath ki milk hain k in pr koi malamat nahi 6 to jo in Do k siwa kuch or chahey wohi had se bharney waley hain 7.

Tafseer:Is ayat se yeh masla maloom hua k Hath k sath qaza-e-shawat karna haram hai.(tafseer khazian ul irfan)

hazrat jabeer radiallaho tala anha ne ik ummat ko azaab kia to apni sharamgahon se khail kartey thay(tafseer khazain ul irfan)

 

Surah al ma'rij,para 29,ayat 29-30

Tarjuma:Or wo jo apni sharamgahon ki hifazat kartey hain magar apni bibiyon ya apney hath k maal kaneezon se.

Tafseer: k halal se haram ki taraf tajawuz kartey hain, masla is ayat se mata,lowatat janwaron k sath qaza-e-shawat or hath se istamna ki hurmat(haram hona) sabit hui.(khazain ul irfan)

 

Surah bani israeel para 15,ayat32

Tarjuma:Or badkari k pas na jao bayshak wo bayhayaee hai or bohat he buri rah.

 

Surah al aaraf para 8,ayat 33

Tarjuma:Tum farmao mere rab ne to bayhayieyan haram farmaee hain jo in main khuli hain or jo chupi or gunah or nahaq ziyadti or ye k allah ka shrik karo jis ki us ne sanad na uteri or ye k allah pr who bat kahoo jis ka ilm nahi rakhtey.

 

Laihaza in tamam ayaton se sabit hota hai k musht zani haram haram or haram hai.Hadis-e-kareema main bhee nabi pak salallaho alihe wasalam farmatey hain "jalq laganey walay (musht zani karney waley)pr ALLAHazawajal ki laanat hai".(fatawa-e-raziviya jild 10,page 80 nisf awal)

 

In the end main yeh kehna chahon ga k blue films , rape, sex talk etc jitni bhee buraniya ap ne likhien hain un se bachney ka rasta ap ne mushtzani ko qarar dia hai , jab k ap ko badnigahiee(ghair mahram ko dekhney) se bachney,kasrat k saath rozey rakhney or jo nikah pr qadir hon us ko nikah karney k barey main likhna chaye tha jaisa ka hadis pak main bhee ata hai. Kiyon k roza badnigahi se rokney wala sharamgah ki hifazat karney wala or shawat ko khatam karney wala hai aur Khoof-e-Khuda,Azab-e-jahanum ka ahsaas dilana chaye tha.

laihaza ap ko moderator se keh kr yeh apna article hatwa dein to ap he k leye acha hai warna ap k leye gunah-e-jaria ka zaryia banjaye ga.

Jo shakhs bura tareeq jari karey or loog us pr amal karien,to us pr us k jari karney ka bhee gunah hoga or un logon k amal ka bhee or amal karney walon k gunah main koi kami nahi hogi. (ibn-e-majh)
k_shumail Group: Members  Joined: 02nd Aug, 2007  Topic: 2  Post: 85  Age:  29  
Posted on:10th Aug 2007, 12:30am
 

Re bigbro

bigbro, excellent post.i appreciate  your effort .   aap ne buhat acchay references diye hain  jin se clear hota hay ke maturbation kitna bara gunha hay aap se request hay ke aap is tarah se or problems per bhi Ahadeess aur Aayaat humain batain  gain and we are waiting for your's next artical

thanks again

Allah bless you

Bewaqoof Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 263  Post: 4444  Age:  39  
Posted on:10th Aug 2007, 7:11am
 

Kisi Aurat Par Jhoota Tuhmat Lagana Gunah Hai

bigbro: ap ne bari mehnat se masturbation ke oopar article likhi balkeh yeh kaha jai keh copy paste ki. is article mai bahut hi zabardast maloomat hai. lekin ap ke article ka Title samajh nahi aya. aap ne title mai likha hai keh Kali Zuban ke artilcle ka reply hai.

lekin mai ne tu Kali Zuban ka aisa koi article nahi read ki jis mai onho ne kaha ho keh Masturbation Islam mai allow hai. ap is qisim ke Title de kar kisi member ke bare mai ghalat publicity kio kar rahe ho. aap ke is title se tu aisa lag raha hai keh shaid Kali Zuban ne apne article mai likha hai keh Masturbation Islam mai allow hai.

Bhai mere aap aik taraf Islam ki bat karte ho aur doosri taraf aik khatoon par jhoota tuhmat lagate ho keh os ne kisi article mai likha hai keh Masturbation Islam mai Allow hai. is tarah kisi aurat par jhoota tuhmat lagana bahut bara gunah hai.

aur agar ap samajhte ho keh jhoota tuhmat nahi laga rahe ho tu phir article ke title mai Reply to Kali Zuban kio likha hai. jab kali zuban ne yeh nahi kaha keh Islam mai masturbation allow hai tu phir ap ko aisa Title lagane ka koi haq nahi hai.

meri mano allah ke azab se daro aur apna article ka Title change karo. yad rakho keh tum kisi par jhoota tuhmat laga kar jahannam ki aag se nahi bach sako ge.

!!!!!!!! Group: Members  Joined: 07th Aug, 2007  Topic: 0  Post: 35  Age:  29  
Posted on:10th Aug 2007, 11:25pm
 

re bewaqoof

ye title is liye lagaya  gaya hai kay Kali zuban ne ye kaha hay apne artical main kay dosre baray gunha zana  waghera se bach sakte hain aap maturbation ker kay   Bigbro ne isi point ko uthaya hay aur kaha hay kay aap ko ye kehne kay bajaye ye mashwara dena tha kay aap loog ghair Mehram ko na dekhain   aur rozay kasrat se rakhain roza shehwat ko kam kerta hay  

mujhay tu is artical main kahin ye nazar nahi aaraha kay kisi pe tuhmat lagai ja rahi hay balkay kisi kee ghalti ko point out ker kay ye kaha ja raha hay kay aap us ko change karo warna aap ka artical parh kay jo jo us pe amal karay ga  yani   zana kay bajaye maturbation karay ga us ka gunha us kay saath aap ko bhi milay ga 

ab yahan ye kehna jo bar bar kaha jata hay kay   hum tu is liye ye baat kerte hain kay baray gunha se bach jain loog   ya  loog masturbation ker kay pareshan aur ghalat fehmi main na rahin   tu ye accha yee thaa kay loog pareshaan or ghalt fehmi mai hi rehte    jab se ye clear hoa  hoga tu loog jo pareshan ho kay week main 2 dafa kerte hoon gay ab 4 dafa ker lete hoon gay kay chalo health per tu koi asar nahi parna aur na hee itna bura gunha hay

gunha chouta ho kay bara gunha gunha hay  ye nahi kehna us kay liye kay koi baat nahi bara gunha say bacha raha hay chouta gunha ker kay tu chouta gunha karo

aap ne is title per tu etraaaz kar diya  lekin Kali zuban kay tilte  MUSHT ZANI NAHI  KARNE KAY NOUQSANAAT  is title per objection nahi kia kay ye kis title se aap  post likh rahi hain

kisi ko objection ho na ho bewaqoof baghair soochay samjhay objection kerna apna farz samjhta hay  is liye bewaqoofi ka objection ker raha hay kay ye title kisi aurat per  TUHMAT hay   

bewaqoof aap ko itna bura lag raha hay ye title tu moderator se kaho kay title change ker dein  

aur is post ko khass tur pe is liye kaha gaya hay kay ye Mrs KAli   kee post ka hee jawab hay ye tu nahi likh sakta thaa na post kerne wala kay bewaqoof kay liye   reply ya my reply kay liye reply 

bigbro Group: Members  Joined: 23rd Jun, 2007  Topic: 9  Post: 29  Age:  31  
Posted on:10th Aug 2007, 11:27pm
 

reply to bewaqoof

dear brother agar ap mera article ghor se read karein to main ne apney article main yeh kahein nahi likha k kali zuban ne apney article main yeh likha k masturbation islam main allow hai, main ne yeh likha k unhon ne apney article main buri adat se bachney k leye musht zani ka rasta apnaney ka mashwara dia hai and regarding the confusion abt the title, to is k leye arz hai k yeh article srif kali zuban k leye nahi its adressing to everyone jinhon ne kali zubhan k article masturbation nahi karney k nuqsan main yeh kaha hai k quran-o-hadis main masturbation ki koi momaniayt nahi.Ajnabi somthing kr k kuch ID hai ik sahab ki jinhon ne us main likha hai k aisee koi hadis ya ayat nahi jis main ushzani ko haram qarar dia gaya hai. is leye main ne yeh title likha k woh sab jinhon ne Kali zuban k us article main participate kia tha woh us ko read kar lain.khas tor pr ajnabi.

main yeh bhee chata hon k sab loog is main participate karein.

agar main ne Kali zuban pr tuhmat lagaiee hai to us k leye main ap tamam members or khass kar k Kali zuban se muafi maangta hon or ALLAHsubhanwatala se tauba karta hon.

in the end agar ap ko koi acha title samjh aye to zaroor bataye ga main is ko us title k saath repost kardon ga.

wasalamu alikum warehmatullah.

SHAIR-28 Group: Members  Joined: 24th Jul, 2007  Topic: 4  Post: 64  Age:  35  
Posted on:10th Aug 2007, 2:04pm
 

I THINK KALI IS RIGH

Imam Abu Hanifa Kay mutabiq "AGAR AAP SAY KOEE BARA GUNHA KARNAY KA IRADA KAR CHUKAY HAIN TOO YEE ACHA HAI KAY CHOOTA GUNHA KAR LIA JAYEE."  yaar simple hai kay agar aap koo doctor advise karey kay apna aik
haat katwado warna aap kaa poora jism kharab hoo jaye ga?? too aap yaqeenan Chooti qurbani do gay. Kali nay bhee to yahee kaha hain or misalain day kar samjhaya hai.

 

Waleed Group: Members  Joined: 03rd Apr, 2007  Topic: 2  Post: 12  Age:  28  
Posted on:10th Aug 2007, 2:22pm
 

Masturbation

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

In his book, The Lawful and the Prohibited in Islam, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi states:

"The majority of Muslim scholars consider masturbation haram (unlawful). Imam Malik bases his judgment on the verse: 'Those who guard their sexual organs except with their spouses or those whom their right hands possess, for (with regard to them) they are without blame. But those who crave something beyond that are transgressors.' (Al-Mu'minoon:5-7)

Imam Malik argued that the masturbator is one of those who ‘crave something beyond that.’

On the other hand, it is reported that Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal regarded semen as an excretion of the body like other excrete, and permitted its expulsion the same way blood letting is permitted. Ibn Hazm holds the same view. However, the Hanbali jurists permit masturbation only under two conditions: first, the fear of committing fornication or adultery, and second, not having the means to marry.

We are inclined to accept the opinion of Imam Ahmad in a situation in which there is sexual excitation and danger of committing the haram [adultery]. For example, a young man has gone abroad to study or work, thereby encountering many temptations which he fears he will be unable to resist, may resort to this method of relieving sexual tension provided he does not do it excessively or make it a habit. Yet, better than this is the Prophet's advice to the Muslim youth who is unable to marry, namely, that he seeks help through frequent fasting, for fasting nurtures will-power, teaches control of desires, and strengthens the fear of Allah. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have said, 'O youth, whoever of you is able to marry, let him marry, for it spares one looking at what one should not, or lapsing in adultery. And if he cannot marry, let him observe fasting, for it is a shield against evil.' (Reported by Muslim.)"

Thus, we do advise you to have your wife with you and not to stay alone. If not, i.e., if there is no way to have her with you and there is a dire necessity to be away from her, then you should make use of the following:

1- Observing fasting, because it bolsters one's faith, preserves chastity, and protects one from evil thoughts.

2- Observing moderation in eating and drinking in order to avoid stimulating your desire.

3- Keeping away from anything that is sexually stimulating, such as pornographic pictures, erotic films and love songs.

4- Choosing good and righteous friends.

5- Keeping yourself busy in worship and spiritual acts.

6- Interacting with activities of the society in such a way that it keeps you away from thinking about sex.

7- Avoiding gatherings and places that bring men and women physically close to each other.

8- Trying to admire natural things such as flowers and beautiful scenery, which do not stimulate one sexually, instead of admiring girls and women.

If you find the previous things useful, then it is forbidden for you to masturbate. However, if you find that you cannot relieve yourself except through masturbation, and you fear you may lapse in adultery if you do not masturbate, then the juristic rule which states that the lesser evil is to be suffered in order to fend off the major one applies to you, as masturbation is deemed to be the lesser of two evils in this case. But, we would like to stress that this may be done only in the case of dire necessity, when all solutions prove to be of no avail.

Bewaqoof Group: Members  Joined: 19th Sep, 2010  Topic: 263  Post: 4444  Age:  39  
Posted on:10th Aug 2007, 5:12pm
 

re: bigbro

apne article masturbation and islam ke oopar reply to kali zuban likh kar yeh zahir karne ki koshish ki hai keh kalizuban kahti hai keh masturbation Islam mai allow hai isi lia ap os ke reply mai Islam ke champion ban kar nikle hai.

aik aurat ka name article ke top par is tarah likh kar ose banam karna nahi tu aur kia hai. aur Islam aisi harkat ki sakht momaneat karta hai.

ap ko Islam and masturbation par jo bhi article likhna hai likhe kisi aurat ko apne article ke title mai dalkar badnam karne ki kia zaroorat hai. ap ka article koi commercial add tu nahi keh kisi aurat ki tasweer ya name ke beghair mukammal nahi ho sakta.

jab Kali Zuban ne apne kisi bhi article mai yeh nahi kaha keh Masturbation Islam mai allow nahi hai tu phir article Masturbation and Islam ke title par Reply tu Kali Zuban likhna aik intehai ghatia aur ghair islami tareeqa hai. aur allah tala aisi ghatia aur ghair islami tareeqa ko na pasand karta hai.

ap ne Masturbation and Islam likh kar jo bhi sawab kamaya tha woh aik aurat par ghatia tuhmat laga ka zai kar dia. aur ab jo log bhi ap ka article aur os ka title read kare ge os ka gunah ap ko milta rahe ga.

ap ko meri bat par yaqeen nahi aye tu ap kisi aalim-e-din ya mufti se fatwa le sakte hai keh kisi aurat ka name apne article ke title mai use karke badnam karne par allah tala ne kia hukum farmaya hai.

ab ap ke article ki jo bhi himayat kare ga woh bhi ap ke gunah mai shareek hoga. mai nahi samajhta keh koi bhi member kisi aurat ka name aik islamic article ke title par dalne ki himayat karke gunah mol lega. ap ane ap ko sachcha sabit karne ke lia ulte seedhe dalail dene aur doosre hami dhoondne ki bajai allah se toba kare aur ainda aisi ghatia harkat na karne ka ahad kare.

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